I’m willing to bet that not one of the people who lost their jobs were upset over the cancellation of thousands of careers like yours. If a doctor or teacher cheers on murder, I want to be nowhere near them.
Twenty years ago this would have been the behavior of fringe fanatics. That it’s mainstream is terrifying.
"The Evildoers responsible for my husband's assassination have NO IDEA what they have done.
If you thought that my husband's mission was powerful before, then you have no idea what you have just UNLEASHED across this entire country and this world.
You have no idea the fire 🔥 that you have ignited!
The cries of this widow.....❗️"
<Erika Kirk>
It isn't clear which is greater, her grief 😔 or her angered determination. I believe it's her grief. But, man, she's pissed.
Yesterday, you would have angered me with this comment. But then I realized something. You are to be pitied among all humans. Because of your empty soul, you delight in producing hurt and anger in others who are grieving. You feed on this anger and hurt because you haven’t the capacity to feel yourself. You lie about the facts of Charlie and his shooter because you have no truth in you. I pray for your immortal soul.
Why pitied? Where do you get that they delight in all of these things. You know what I see? I see people so divided on the political spectrum, they have lost their moral code and that includes you. I have yet to see anyone celebrating Charlie Kirk's death. Stop looking for excuses to hate.
No. John, are they truly celebrating or are they acknowledging and repeating things that he has said, that is not celebrating. I have not seen one person on tiktok on Facebook, YouTube or anywhere else actually celebrating his death.
I think these individuals should no longer be considered "mainstream." The dem party is much smaller than it was which of course means the concentration of nutcakes is a bigger number, but normal people (the group without big mouths) are in the majority. So some crackpot is happy that Charlie Kirk was killed, well, duh. It isn't that there is any majority, it's how whacked-out they are. It's the degree of crazy.
That is the difference in the country. These people are still fringe lunatics but they have for one reason or another taken over the country. And they own the Democrats Party. And this is very dangerous.
As a physician, I am horrified and saddened by the discovery of monsters in the medical profession, but not remotely surprised. I have known outright communists, and Nazi sympathizers, in my career. I tried to keep one Nazi from getting licensed, but failed. He ultimately lost his license. Medicine, like all professions, is made up of humans, who are flawed creatures.
I recall a couple years ago some medical professional boasting that she refuses to give anyone she thinks is a Trump supporter proper pain relief. She felt they deserved to suffer with no recourse or relief because of their evil Nazi views.
This is the democrat party. The left got complacent. The lies and hate carried them for a few decades and now there is no way out. They will destroy themselves with the sentiment this evil person feels about us.
Are you really that proud of being a hateful person? Oh and what big words! "fascist tradition of stochastic terrorism"! Do you know what any of those words actually mean? And how they all apply very well to the Left and its disgusting, but very revealing, reactions to Charlie's assassination? Do you realize that fascism is adjacent to socialism, definitely not a politically-right concept? And the Left has been engaging in a lot of stochastic terrorism the last 10 years or so, escalating all the time. Look in the mirror and think about who you are, and if you want to be that person. That is what Charlie was about, dialog, discussion, and, if his listeners were willing, to change their viewpoint. He was never violent to anyone.
I disagree: if you want to show that you're a ghoul and celebrate a person's murder, fine. But no organization, government or civilian, should want to have you on their payroll. There is a clear dividing line between decency and mental illness - and if you want to broadcast your mental illness, you should be shunned and unemployed.
Exactly. Free speech means you are protected from being arrested or killed —killed!— for speech. Not that a company must continue to employ you if you celebrate an innocent man’s murder.
Many companies have corporate codes of ethics and conduct. Having employees who celebrate murder may violate those codes and certainly do not reflect well on the company. It is especially important for people in public positions to display high levels of personal and professional ethics, so I think firing is appropriate. I certainly would not want my children's teacher to be posting openly online where many in the community can see it that murder is good.
The 1A stops the government from regulating speech. Private firms do not have to hire you. Or continue to employ you.
There is a massive difference though between someone being fired because he has a Trump sign in his yard, and someone loudly proclaiming ‘it is okay to murder conservatives’.
Would any of us as a conservative want to see a doctor or a nurse who thinks it is okay to kill us? Would I buy a meal in a restaurant where the staff openly thinks it is okay to kill conservatives. Or have a teacher teach our children that?
I walked by a restaurant where they had a sign with all the Liberal slogans on it - Hate has no home here. Love is love. Etc. They declared they served all people. Well, duh! Of course they do. What restaurant turns down paying customers? The hostess standing outside said ‘All are welcome here. We serve everyone’. She said it like restaurants all over Victoria have signs saying ‘No Blacks or Gays Allowed’. I said ‘I am a conservative Christian real estate developer. Am I welcome?’ Her eyes narrowed, her smiley face became grim, she said ‘of course, everyone is welcome’. Zero welcoming warmth. It made me laugh. As if I would let them cook me a meal. They would pee in it.
Who’s saying it’s ok to kill conservatives? I’m asking in good faith. I’m liberal leaning in many respects, but have lots of MAGA friends and family. I get frustrated arguing with them but I don’t want them dead. You seem to be openly advocating for financial punishment against a certain viewpoint. That itself seems like a very fascist thing. I know you’re frustrated and upset. I am as well, but we can’t fix this problem by giving our government the power to punish our ideological enemies.
If a Liberal posts Charlie ‘got what he deserved’ that person is essentially saying ‘if you believe what CK does and you speak it out you deserve to die’. Charlie just talked. He debated.
If a person believes Charlie Kirk deserved to die there are a lot of positions they should not hold.
How prominent do you want. The endless list of TikTok clips asking if trump was dead yet? An endless list of people encouraging more death in response to Charlie Kirk?
An endless list of people bemoaning the missed opportunity to kill Trump?
A picture of a famous comedian holding trumps severed head? A former intelligence officer posting a call to 86 trump?
Punch a Nazi?
Every prominent democrat calling Trump a threat to the existence of our country?
How do you treat a threat to the existence of your country? With debate?
Here is the crux since you have no ability to see the obvious-
Charlie Kirk voiced opinions that you disagree with.
The left, no doubt including you, called his ideas dangerous and claimed he threatened the lives of people by saying things that are TRUE. His opinions were DANGEROUS. That lie begets violence. It is simple and true and undeniable so as a leftist you will not understand.
give me what you got instead of talking about it. how about Elon Musk prominent? got Soros on tape calling the Right “the party of murder” and telling the Right to “Fight back or die?”
Can you cite specific examples of mainstream conservatives who advocate for murder of liberals? In contrast, there are dozens if not hundreds of clips of prominent liberals, including quite a few elected officials, who advocate violence against conservatives, perhaps not explicitly to murder (although there are countless examples of liberals wishing Trump dead), but coming very close to explicit murder.
And don't bring up fringe right-wing crackpots, they have very little audience or following outside their own subculture, most regular conservatives couldn't name a single one or tell you what they believe. In contrast, I think everyone in the country can name many liberals who spout extreme views constantly and tell you exactly what they say.
oh and the deaths in ICE custody, an organization that disappears /violently arrests people on the basis they speak Spanish, work labor jobs, and have brown skin. is that not violent and those who protest ICE—who are general “liberal” are beaten as well. is that not violent behavior to you? with a conservative SCOTUS that just allowed it to happen?
and everyone jokes about the death of presidents and politicians. that’s silly. wanting an old guy to die isn’t the same as plotting to kill him (her) or wanting that person assassinated.
unless of course you suggest the “Second Amendment people” get working on it…
now your turn: cite specific examples where whatever criteria you established you can give me the names of liberals calling for harm /death to conservatives.
Trump's rhetoric: Former President Donald Trump has repeatedly used inflammatory language against political opponents, including calls to "fight like hell" before the January 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol. https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2024/10/trump-violent-rhetoric-timeline/680403/ has documented a timeline of his violent remarks, including referring to "the enemy from within," like Democrats, as more dangerous than foreign adversaries.
Response to Kirk assassination: In the wake of Kirk's murder, some figures on the right, including conspiracy theorist Alex Jones and former Trump adviser Steve Bannon, have responded with calls for "war". This is despite other prominent conservatives calling for calm and condemning the murder.
QAnon conspiracy theories:Some conservative groups, particularly among white Christian evangelicals, have been found to be outsized supporters of the QAnon conspiracy. This conspiracy promotes the baseless claim that Democratic politicians and other elites are involved in a Satanic pedophile ring, a narrative that fuels extremist beliefs and political violence.
Targeting specific individuals:Research shows that women and minority officials are disproportionately targeted with harassment and threats. Conservative figures have also specifically targeted and attacked prominent liberals. For example, in July 2024, top Republicans amplified attacks on Kamala Harris, labeling her a "dangerous liberal" in an effort to paint her as an extremist.
Escalating political violence
Increased political polarization: Experts warn that the heated political environment, fueled by extreme rhetoric, incentivizes demonization of political rivals and makes violence more likely. A 2025 study found that exposure to violent rhetoric from partisan elites increased support for political violence among their opponents.
Rising threats and incidents:Recent years have seen a surge in political violence, including threats against election administrators and plots against politicians. A poll of former Members of Congress in 2024 revealed a disturbing rise in political violence threats.
Increased support for violence: In a September 2024 poll, a significant number of Republicans and Trump-supporting Republicans indicated they would support taking violent actions if they believed the 2024 election was compromised.
I’m struggling to understand this attitude. If Charlie Kirk has the right to speak his mind, why doesn’t Christina Ricci? If you don’t want to her opinion, that’s fine. Don’t spend your money on her movies. But if you advocate for her to be stripped of the right to earn a living then how is that not fascist? Either people have a right to ugly opinions you disagree with or they don’t. You can’t have it both ways.
Christina Ricci has the right to say what she wants. I will never see one of her movies. I am not advocating no one hires her again. But I won’t spend my money on that film. She wants me dead. How is this hard to understand? Saying Charlie had the right to say what he wanted to and NOT BE MURDERED is not the same as someone saying ‘that cafe owner hates conservatives. Good cheeseburgers, but I will never eat there again.’ That is me exercising my rights. I am not taking away their rights, as Charlie’s ultimate right was taken away.
I’ve thought about this situation because I’m an employer in health care. Almost all of our employees and their positions are posted on our website. If one of our employees posted a celebration (or a rationalization), of a gory assassination of any American like Charlie’s was, I would fire that person. I don’t want anyone whom is responsible for patient care like that associated with our health care group in any way.
I used to not be in favor of cancel culture either. But that was before more than a decade of watching people being cancelled for the most asinine reasons. We have been, lectured, fired, cancelled and now killed for not agreeing with the woke/godless agenda. If conservatives are finally standing up and saying “Enough” I say bring it.
I’m all for every leftist liberal shit poster losing their job. They have crossed the line of acceptable speech when their words have pushed these extreme ideas as normal. It’s not normal. The assassination of Charlie Kirk was senseless and cruel. He was a dedicated Christian, a powerful speaker with a great future ahead of him. He loved his Savior Jesus, his country, his wife and children. His family has suffered a great loss. Those two small children didn’t deserve to lose their dad. Those issuing an apology linked to gun violence are just trying to ignore the real threat. We have teachers and professors, media, and Democrat politicians calling anyone not agreeing in lockstep as fascists. They have poisoned the minds of many. It’s this violence that caused his death. They aren’t sorry, just CYA pitiful apology, when they have pushed extreme hate. Thankfully, many are seeing the truly ugly side of these people and leaving the Democrat party. They have shown true evil in their uncontrolled outrage of hate and exposed their pure corrupt ugly hate that a normal person cannot oblige or go along. I hope this helps to utterly destroy the Democrat socialist party and may they never be in power and be afraid of the wrath put on them.
Honestly, why does it matter whether what he said was good or bad? The greater point is that nobody should be executed for exercising their first amendment rights.
Nah, I’m tired of letting them speak and think it’s normal to speak hate and intolerance. My line in the sand is already there. I hope many lose their jobs and realize their uncontrolled outbursts of hate and incitement to violence is long past.
Not going to say "I don't understand"...because I do!.....showing a monster how good you can be is throwing your pearls before swine...maybe after the dust settles we can go back to that...Be Blessed ...
I am 1000000000% in favor of anyone and everyone who openly celebrates a murder being fired. You have to wonder what kind of a messed up person that would be and I wouldn't want them as a customer/client let alone someone who represented me.
Free speech law only applies to the government abridging citizens’ free speech rights. Employers are not bound by this and thus are absolutely allowed to suspend or fire employees who post opinions the employer doesn’t agree with and believes reflects poorly on the company or university. I say BRING IT! All of these horrific people celebrating Charlie’s death are the dregs of society. The lowest of the low. People are crawling through social media and posting these cretins onto a site called Charlie’s Murderers. Now they’re panicking. Good, they’re finally facing the consequences of their actions. Only this level of pain can wake them up. Sasha, you’ve navigated well through this insanity and I think you’d like this piece I read today by el gato malo: https://open.substack.com/pub/boriquagato/p/its-time-to-talk-about-charlie?r=yyzmm&utm_medium=ios
If I owned a small manufacturing company and I found one of my employees was happy about a murder I just wouldn’t want him around, no matter his politics.
Tell me you don’t understand what a right is, the US Constitution, nor have read the Federalist Papers to understand the intent of the document without telling me you have no clue. Thanks. The First Amendment is why you can post your thoughts on the internet and the cops don’t arrest you like they do in the UK. No clue, and you probably aren’t self-aware enough to understand you don’t understand.
Then what is the point of the Constitution?....does it not already impinge and regulate society? the government stopped protecting your rights along time ago,now,its the no.1 violator of individual liberties.and if WE as members of this society don't PROTECT EACH other's rights,then we never really had them did we...?....
The people who are being fired are people hired as spokespeople, educators and public servants. As such they have no business using their positions as platforms to congratulate violence, particularly ideological violence. That is the difference. They are not being cancelled. They are being fired with good cause.
Let's get just one thing straight here, Sasha; people are not losing their jobs for "having an opinion." Would you want someone operating on you in surgery, who wants you dead because you were caught wearing a MAGA hat or TPUSA t-shirt? Would you trust someone who wants you dead to manage your money? Or teach your children in school?
The ghouls have proven themselves dangerous. Charlie Kirk's corpse should be all the proof you need of that -- literally, physically *dangerous*. It is necessary for my preservation and yours that the ghouls not be allowed to remain in positions of power and/or trust. If they want to engage in consequence-free speech, they can flip burgers or pull espresso for a living.
I agree totally. These people are dangerously brainwashed and they should not be around anyone except maybe their own. They not only hated Charlie, they hate all of us and given the opportunity and what they perceive is not only justifiable, but noble, there is no doubt in my mind that they would attack-- or worse --us. I don't want them anywhere near me or my family.
This arose from the idea that speech itself is violent, and by people misreporting and distorting what Charlie Kirk actually said to portray him as a hateful person. Anyone who’s watched his videos can see he didn’t hate anyone.
As to the false premise that speech=violence and the damage that idea leads to, these two articles lay it out well.
Sasha, you are absolutely right. Fascism has taken over Hollywood and reached a critical mass on the left. They live in their self-reinforcing bubble echo chamber. And they’re not giving up or going without a fight.
That's Christina Ricci? Wow. She has had a lot of plastic surgery or Botox. She looks nothing like she used to. This must be a last ditch attempt for an acting job.
I watched a interview with Mark Levin and Charlie in 2020! We lost SO MUCH that day, it’s unbearable. Charlie was a genius in his own right. We DESPERATELY NEED his voice, what a horrible loss. Our young people have lost a role model to be emulated. Horrible times for our country. And I do think loss of a job is justified. A human being cannot sink any lower than celebrating the death of a good man.
Let’s get one thing clear: there is no such thing as “first amendment rights” vis-a-vis your relationship with your employer. Employers have a right and a duty to care deeply about the character and temperament of their employees. Full stop.
I’m willing to bet that not one of the people who lost their jobs were upset over the cancellation of thousands of careers like yours. If a doctor or teacher cheers on murder, I want to be nowhere near them.
Twenty years ago this would have been the behavior of fringe fanatics. That it’s mainstream is terrifying.
"The Evildoers responsible for my husband's assassination have NO IDEA what they have done.
If you thought that my husband's mission was powerful before, then you have no idea what you have just UNLEASHED across this entire country and this world.
You have no idea the fire 🔥 that you have ignited!
The cries of this widow.....❗️"
<Erika Kirk>
It isn't clear which is greater, her grief 😔 or her angered determination. I believe it's her grief. But, man, she's pissed.
Yesterday, you would have angered me with this comment. But then I realized something. You are to be pitied among all humans. Because of your empty soul, you delight in producing hurt and anger in others who are grieving. You feed on this anger and hurt because you haven’t the capacity to feel yourself. You lie about the facts of Charlie and his shooter because you have no truth in you. I pray for your immortal soul.
Why pitied? Where do you get that they delight in all of these things. You know what I see? I see people so divided on the political spectrum, they have lost their moral code and that includes you. I have yet to see anyone celebrating Charlie Kirk's death. Stop looking for excuses to hate.
Then you are blind if you haven’t seen people celebrating his death. It’s all over YouTube.
No. John, are they truly celebrating or are they acknowledging and repeating things that he has said, that is not celebrating. I have not seen one person on tiktok on Facebook, YouTube or anywhere else actually celebrating his death.
I wonder if Silverman, in his total lack of introspection, realizes just how full of shit he actually is.
a hate mongering pathetic human
No they didn’t he was an antifa pos
And his lover was trans.
606318 boo
You are lying and you know you are lying. Evil is as evil does.
Do you have a source for that?
It’s all over Substack, just scroll
I think these individuals should no longer be considered "mainstream." The dem party is much smaller than it was which of course means the concentration of nutcakes is a bigger number, but normal people (the group without big mouths) are in the majority. So some crackpot is happy that Charlie Kirk was killed, well, duh. It isn't that there is any majority, it's how whacked-out they are. It's the degree of crazy.
Relax. I'll bet Charlie would want that.
That is the difference in the country. These people are still fringe lunatics but they have for one reason or another taken over the country. And they own the Democrats Party. And this is very dangerous.
As a physician, I am horrified and saddened by the discovery of monsters in the medical profession, but not remotely surprised. I have known outright communists, and Nazi sympathizers, in my career. I tried to keep one Nazi from getting licensed, but failed. He ultimately lost his license. Medicine, like all professions, is made up of humans, who are flawed creatures.
True. I always thought the highly educated had to be better people because they should know better, but I woke up a long time ago.
there’s a huge difference between cheering on what happened to Kirk and not being surprised. or not mourning him.
I recall a couple years ago some medical professional boasting that she refuses to give anyone she thinks is a Trump supporter proper pain relief. She felt they deserved to suffer with no recourse or relief because of their evil Nazi views.
I know a therapist who said other therapists have told her that they wouldn’t treat Trump supporters.
It’s not Trump supporters who need or want therapy.
thanks for the warning, this therapist needs a lot of help with so many things...scary critter.
Terrifying yet clearly in the crystal ball as of 2010
The bet? No way would I wager against you.
This is the democrat party. The left got complacent. The lies and hate carried them for a few decades and now there is no way out. They will destroy themselves with the sentiment this evil person feels about us.
Are you really that proud of being a hateful person? Oh and what big words! "fascist tradition of stochastic terrorism"! Do you know what any of those words actually mean? And how they all apply very well to the Left and its disgusting, but very revealing, reactions to Charlie's assassination? Do you realize that fascism is adjacent to socialism, definitely not a politically-right concept? And the Left has been engaging in a lot of stochastic terrorism the last 10 years or so, escalating all the time. Look in the mirror and think about who you are, and if you want to be that person. That is what Charlie was about, dialog, discussion, and, if his listeners were willing, to change their viewpoint. He was never violent to anyone.
Keep posting. You're proving the point without even realizing it.
I disagree: if you want to show that you're a ghoul and celebrate a person's murder, fine. But no organization, government or civilian, should want to have you on their payroll. There is a clear dividing line between decency and mental illness - and if you want to broadcast your mental illness, you should be shunned and unemployed.
Exactly. Free speech means you are protected from being arrested or killed —killed!— for speech. Not that a company must continue to employ you if you celebrate an innocent man’s murder.
Many companies have corporate codes of ethics and conduct. Having employees who celebrate murder may violate those codes and certainly do not reflect well on the company. It is especially important for people in public positions to display high levels of personal and professional ethics, so I think firing is appropriate. I certainly would not want my children's teacher to be posting openly online where many in the community can see it that murder is good.
The 1A stops the government from regulating speech. Private firms do not have to hire you. Or continue to employ you.
There is a massive difference though between someone being fired because he has a Trump sign in his yard, and someone loudly proclaiming ‘it is okay to murder conservatives’.
Would any of us as a conservative want to see a doctor or a nurse who thinks it is okay to kill us? Would I buy a meal in a restaurant where the staff openly thinks it is okay to kill conservatives. Or have a teacher teach our children that?
I walked by a restaurant where they had a sign with all the Liberal slogans on it - Hate has no home here. Love is love. Etc. They declared they served all people. Well, duh! Of course they do. What restaurant turns down paying customers? The hostess standing outside said ‘All are welcome here. We serve everyone’. She said it like restaurants all over Victoria have signs saying ‘No Blacks or Gays Allowed’. I said ‘I am a conservative Christian real estate developer. Am I welcome?’ Her eyes narrowed, her smiley face became grim, she said ‘of course, everyone is welcome’. Zero welcoming warmth. It made me laugh. As if I would let them cook me a meal. They would pee in it.
Who’s saying it’s ok to kill conservatives? I’m asking in good faith. I’m liberal leaning in many respects, but have lots of MAGA friends and family. I get frustrated arguing with them but I don’t want them dead. You seem to be openly advocating for financial punishment against a certain viewpoint. That itself seems like a very fascist thing. I know you’re frustrated and upset. I am as well, but we can’t fix this problem by giving our government the power to punish our ideological enemies.
If a Liberal posts Charlie ‘got what he deserved’ that person is essentially saying ‘if you believe what CK does and you speak it out you deserve to die’. Charlie just talked. He debated.
If a person believes Charlie Kirk deserved to die there are a lot of positions they should not hold.
It is fairly easy to find a large group of people celebrating his death. Libs of TikTok listed several.
If you celebrate his death for stating opinions I share you are advocating for my death. I guess the question is this:
How many people do I have to share my opinion with before I am as deserving of death as Charlie Kirk was?
1, 5, 100?
It is the same . It obviously is.
You’re seeking to justify their hate with sophistry and that means you have no sense of decency as near as I can tell.
I cannot overcome your disdain for me or Charlie to convince you.
I’m sorry that you have to live with those thoughts. I truly am.
conservatives say it’s ok to hurt liberals almost every day.
How prominent do you want. The endless list of TikTok clips asking if trump was dead yet? An endless list of people encouraging more death in response to Charlie Kirk?
An endless list of people bemoaning the missed opportunity to kill Trump?
A picture of a famous comedian holding trumps severed head? A former intelligence officer posting a call to 86 trump?
Punch a Nazi?
Every prominent democrat calling Trump a threat to the existence of our country?
How do you treat a threat to the existence of your country? With debate?
Here is the crux since you have no ability to see the obvious-
Charlie Kirk voiced opinions that you disagree with.
The left, no doubt including you, called his ideas dangerous and claimed he threatened the lives of people by saying things that are TRUE. His opinions were DANGEROUS. That lie begets violence. It is simple and true and undeniable so as a leftist you will not understand.
i didn’t call Kirk anything you extrapolating POS. i never spent 5 fucking minutes finding out who that bro was.
i don’t tolerate extrapolation, bud. blocked.
and you don’t provide LINKS because all you do is spew. get lost loser.
Angry at being contradicted. Insulting. Blocking me for offering my opinion.
This is the left.
classy.
how do you know i disagreed with Charlie Kirk? i didn’t even know who the fuck he was.
are we gonna parse over the internet Memes now? really you want to go there?
how about that Trump clip beating up the CNN logo in a stupid fake wrestling match?
you say the word. well go there. provide actual links or you are blocked . don’t waste my fucking time.
give me what you got instead of talking about it. how about Elon Musk prominent? got Soros on tape calling the Right “the party of murder” and telling the Right to “Fight back or die?”
gimme that.
Can you cite specific examples of mainstream conservatives who advocate for murder of liberals? In contrast, there are dozens if not hundreds of clips of prominent liberals, including quite a few elected officials, who advocate violence against conservatives, perhaps not explicitly to murder (although there are countless examples of liberals wishing Trump dead), but coming very close to explicit murder.
And don't bring up fringe right-wing crackpots, they have very little audience or following outside their own subculture, most regular conservatives couldn't name a single one or tell you what they believe. In contrast, I think everyone in the country can name many liberals who spout extreme views constantly and tell you exactly what they say.
Yeah. You got no response. To be expected.
please provide the list of prominent liberals advocating violence against conservatives.
oh I forgot to mention Trumps whining about how domestic violence is a crime. so that too.
oh and the deaths in ICE custody, an organization that disappears /violently arrests people on the basis they speak Spanish, work labor jobs, and have brown skin. is that not violent and those who protest ICE—who are general “liberal” are beaten as well. is that not violent behavior to you? with a conservative SCOTUS that just allowed it to happen?
https://apnews.com/article/7e3fcc1d5c2446098652affae9e6322a
and everyone jokes about the death of presidents and politicians. that’s silly. wanting an old guy to die isn’t the same as plotting to kill him (her) or wanting that person assassinated.
unless of course you suggest the “Second Amendment people” get working on it…
and Elon Musk Tweeted the left was the “party of murder”
and encouraged the Right to fight back. ???
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jevZ-G6Fyk
https://www.vox.com/politics/461254/charlie-kirk-shooting-trump-radical-left-violence
now your turn: cite specific examples where whatever criteria you established you can give me the names of liberals calling for harm /death to conservatives.
Trump's rhetoric: Former President Donald Trump has repeatedly used inflammatory language against political opponents, including calls to "fight like hell" before the January 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol. https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2024/10/trump-violent-rhetoric-timeline/680403/ has documented a timeline of his violent remarks, including referring to "the enemy from within," like Democrats, as more dangerous than foreign adversaries.
Response to Kirk assassination: In the wake of Kirk's murder, some figures on the right, including conspiracy theorist Alex Jones and former Trump adviser Steve Bannon, have responded with calls for "war". This is despite other prominent conservatives calling for calm and condemning the murder.
QAnon conspiracy theories:Some conservative groups, particularly among white Christian evangelicals, have been found to be outsized supporters of the QAnon conspiracy. This conspiracy promotes the baseless claim that Democratic politicians and other elites are involved in a Satanic pedophile ring, a narrative that fuels extremist beliefs and political violence.
Targeting specific individuals:Research shows that women and minority officials are disproportionately targeted with harassment and threats. Conservative figures have also specifically targeted and attacked prominent liberals. For example, in July 2024, top Republicans amplified attacks on Kamala Harris, labeling her a "dangerous liberal" in an effort to paint her as an extremist.
Escalating political violence
Increased political polarization: Experts warn that the heated political environment, fueled by extreme rhetoric, incentivizes demonization of political rivals and makes violence more likely. A 2025 study found that exposure to violent rhetoric from partisan elites increased support for political violence among their opponents.
Rising threats and incidents:Recent years have seen a surge in political violence, including threats against election administrators and plots against politicians. A poll of former Members of Congress in 2024 revealed a disturbing rise in political violence threats.
Increased support for violence: In a September 2024 poll, a significant number of Republicans and Trump-supporting Republicans indicated they would support taking violent actions if they believed the 2024 election was compromised.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/right-wing-anger-surges-kirks-killing-fuels-calls-vengeance-2025-09-12/
does the President of the United States qualify as. a crackpot?
in 2016 Trump suggested the “Second Amendment people” take care of Hillary.
https://newrepublic.com/article/200410/trump-issued-unnerving-threat-liberals
I read the words of President Trump. He didn’t say what you want him to have said.
i have no idea which words you are talking about because the man never shuts up.
did you see the Fox newscaster apologize today for saying the homeless should be killed?
What" NO THEY DO NOT. You have the wrong party girlie
Mike Johnson suggesting Newsom be “tarred and feathered.”
research it sugar lips.
Read the stats. Tastycakes.
I see it as no one should be compelled to maintain their employment. Such people present a safety risk to those around them.
Excellent response. Semper Fi, USMCVet. Dr Gary, Dr Tooth Elf
https://substack.com/@jdelrossipa/note/c-155820774?r=cfkdy&utm_medium=ios&utm_source=notes-share-action
I’m struggling to understand this attitude. If Charlie Kirk has the right to speak his mind, why doesn’t Christina Ricci? If you don’t want to her opinion, that’s fine. Don’t spend your money on her movies. But if you advocate for her to be stripped of the right to earn a living then how is that not fascist? Either people have a right to ugly opinions you disagree with or they don’t. You can’t have it both ways.
Christina Ricci has the right to say what she wants. I will never see one of her movies. I am not advocating no one hires her again. But I won’t spend my money on that film. She wants me dead. How is this hard to understand? Saying Charlie had the right to say what he wanted to and NOT BE MURDERED is not the same as someone saying ‘that cafe owner hates conservatives. Good cheeseburgers, but I will never eat there again.’ That is me exercising my rights. I am not taking away their rights, as Charlie’s ultimate right was taken away.
i prefer they voice their ugly opinions. that way i know what i’m dealing with.
I’ve thought about this situation because I’m an employer in health care. Almost all of our employees and their positions are posted on our website. If one of our employees posted a celebration (or a rationalization), of a gory assassination of any American like Charlie’s was, I would fire that person. I don’t want anyone whom is responsible for patient care like that associated with our health care group in any way.
I used to not be in favor of cancel culture either. But that was before more than a decade of watching people being cancelled for the most asinine reasons. We have been, lectured, fired, cancelled and now killed for not agreeing with the woke/godless agenda. If conservatives are finally standing up and saying “Enough” I say bring it.
I’m all for every leftist liberal shit poster losing their job. They have crossed the line of acceptable speech when their words have pushed these extreme ideas as normal. It’s not normal. The assassination of Charlie Kirk was senseless and cruel. He was a dedicated Christian, a powerful speaker with a great future ahead of him. He loved his Savior Jesus, his country, his wife and children. His family has suffered a great loss. Those two small children didn’t deserve to lose their dad. Those issuing an apology linked to gun violence are just trying to ignore the real threat. We have teachers and professors, media, and Democrat politicians calling anyone not agreeing in lockstep as fascists. They have poisoned the minds of many. It’s this violence that caused his death. They aren’t sorry, just CYA pitiful apology, when they have pushed extreme hate. Thankfully, many are seeing the truly ugly side of these people and leaving the Democrat party. They have shown true evil in their uncontrolled outrage of hate and exposed their pure corrupt ugly hate that a normal person cannot oblige or go along. I hope this helps to utterly destroy the Democrat socialist party and may they never be in power and be afraid of the wrath put on them.
Honestly, why does it matter whether what he said was good or bad? The greater point is that nobody should be executed for exercising their first amendment rights.
Double edged sword,two wrongs don't make a right.....let them speak,and when they try to shut you up,let that be the line in the sand.....
Nah, I’m tired of letting them speak and think it’s normal to speak hate and intolerance. My line in the sand is already there. I hope many lose their jobs and realize their uncontrolled outbursts of hate and incitement to violence is long past.
Not going to say "I don't understand"...because I do!.....showing a monster how good you can be is throwing your pearls before swine...maybe after the dust settles we can go back to that...Be Blessed ...
You too Bob. Appreciate your comments, as always.
I am 1000000000% in favor of anyone and everyone who openly celebrates a murder being fired. You have to wonder what kind of a messed up person that would be and I wouldn't want them as a customer/client let alone someone who represented me.
Free speech law only applies to the government abridging citizens’ free speech rights. Employers are not bound by this and thus are absolutely allowed to suspend or fire employees who post opinions the employer doesn’t agree with and believes reflects poorly on the company or university. I say BRING IT! All of these horrific people celebrating Charlie’s death are the dregs of society. The lowest of the low. People are crawling through social media and posting these cretins onto a site called Charlie’s Murderers. Now they’re panicking. Good, they’re finally facing the consequences of their actions. Only this level of pain can wake them up. Sasha, you’ve navigated well through this insanity and I think you’d like this piece I read today by el gato malo: https://open.substack.com/pub/boriquagato/p/its-time-to-talk-about-charlie?r=yyzmm&utm_medium=ios
If I owned a small manufacturing company and I found one of my employees was happy about a murder I just wouldn’t want him around, no matter his politics.
Tell me you don’t understand what a right is, the US Constitution, nor have read the Federalist Papers to understand the intent of the document without telling me you have no clue. Thanks. The First Amendment is why you can post your thoughts on the internet and the cops don’t arrest you like they do in the UK. No clue, and you probably aren’t self-aware enough to understand you don’t understand.
When I fire your sorry ass, I too am expressing my freedom of speech.
Do I not have the right to hire and fire according to my own lights? What law forces me to hire a proudly violent Antifa nut?
Excuse me Mark, but I fully understand the First Amendment. And I’m quite self-aware you loser.
Is the gratuitous insult really necessary?
Yes it is.
The government cannot abridge your right to free speech. Everyone else can.
Then what is the point of the Constitution?....does it not already impinge and regulate society? the government stopped protecting your rights along time ago,now,its the no.1 violator of individual liberties.and if WE as members of this society don't PROTECT EACH other's rights,then we never really had them did we...?....
The people who are being fired are people hired as spokespeople, educators and public servants. As such they have no business using their positions as platforms to congratulate violence, particularly ideological violence. That is the difference. They are not being cancelled. They are being fired with good cause.
Let's get just one thing straight here, Sasha; people are not losing their jobs for "having an opinion." Would you want someone operating on you in surgery, who wants you dead because you were caught wearing a MAGA hat or TPUSA t-shirt? Would you trust someone who wants you dead to manage your money? Or teach your children in school?
The ghouls have proven themselves dangerous. Charlie Kirk's corpse should be all the proof you need of that -- literally, physically *dangerous*. It is necessary for my preservation and yours that the ghouls not be allowed to remain in positions of power and/or trust. If they want to engage in consequence-free speech, they can flip burgers or pull espresso for a living.
Though I don’t think I want them anywhere near my food/beverages either.
I agree totally. These people are dangerously brainwashed and they should not be around anyone except maybe their own. They not only hated Charlie, they hate all of us and given the opportunity and what they perceive is not only justifiable, but noble, there is no doubt in my mind that they would attack-- or worse --us. I don't want them anywhere near me or my family.
This arose from the idea that speech itself is violent, and by people misreporting and distorting what Charlie Kirk actually said to portray him as a hateful person. Anyone who’s watched his videos can see he didn’t hate anyone.
As to the false premise that speech=violence and the damage that idea leads to, these two articles lay it out well.
1) PJMedia: From Dignity to Blasphemy: How Words Became “Violence” (https://pjmedia.com/jamie-wilson/2025/09/13/from-dignity-to-blasphemy-how-words-became-violence-n4943671); and
2) City-Journal: An Ideology Whose Logic Leads to Murder (https://www.city-journal.org/article/charlie-kirk-murder-speech-violence)
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Sasha, you are absolutely right. Fascism has taken over Hollywood and reached a critical mass on the left. They live in their self-reinforcing bubble echo chamber. And they’re not giving up or going without a fight.
That's Christina Ricci? Wow. She has had a lot of plastic surgery or Botox. She looks nothing like she used to. This must be a last ditch attempt for an acting job.
I watched a interview with Mark Levin and Charlie in 2020! We lost SO MUCH that day, it’s unbearable. Charlie was a genius in his own right. We DESPERATELY NEED his voice, what a horrible loss. Our young people have lost a role model to be emulated. Horrible times for our country. And I do think loss of a job is justified. A human being cannot sink any lower than celebrating the death of a good man.
Ricci is a washed up 2nd rated b-roll theater kid with a keyboard.
She has get her daily fix of 👍 in order to feel meaningful and say away from her mood drugs.
Her political opinion is as good as Maryland Kilmar or St. George Floyd's
I think she probably hooes this will get her work in Hollywood
You misspelled whores...lol.
You're extremely and fundamentally correct. Bravo.
Let’s get one thing clear: there is no such thing as “first amendment rights” vis-a-vis your relationship with your employer. Employers have a right and a duty to care deeply about the character and temperament of their employees. Full stop.